No offense taken...thanks for the honesty. You have very sound reasoning and I agree that my previous post does not exude much passion (probably because I am still in the 'oblivion' stage of my quest). If I had an idea to be passionate about that would be a start and that is why I am here. The passion to make money is always there but that's another question, and the truth is that some of my passion is vested in other business interests. Another interest to be passionate about wouldn't hurt. I just came on to get ideas..."what would you do if you had an extra five grand?" And I thank you for your input. I am still seeking other ideas. I seem to have done well in the past because of an uninhibited assumption of risk that comes with this territory we call busness. The losses cannot be overstated. But to lose such an amount would not be too devastating.